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  Optimum Population
Posted by: ReadingLib - 11-02-2015, 07:24 PM - Forum: Party Policy Draft Papers - Discussion - Replies (1)

The issue of optimum population for our island nation has received  increased media attention in recent years, almost always in relation to population size and immigration. However its correct application is environmental and not economic sustainability.

In the late 1980's when I was involved in conservation work in East Anglia, one of our local group was a former senior member of the Green Party, who has been forced to step down due to mental illness.

He revealed that the great unpublicised debate within the Green party in the 1980's had been optimum population size for the UK. This was the level at which the population was in balance with the natural environment. They had settled on a figure of 45 million, about 10 million less than the countries then population, and perhaps 19 million less that today.

By another widely quoted figure the UK is estimated to being consuming 3.5 times this nations natural resources. This would imply the natural population level was a mere 18 million.

In fact this nations population increase comes from a combination of immigration, and greater life expectancy. Basic economic and industry activity continue to expand, demanding further labour. As we are unable to supply this domestically, this leads to immigration.

At the same time an ageing population, needing more long term care, and a lack of suitably qualified and experienced UK citizens to work in care related industries, adds to the issues of immigration.

As Liberals we value our freedom of choice, but tinged with responsibility for our actions when planning a family.
However the  current birth rate in this country is still below the natural replacement rate of 2.1 children per couple. It is also now heavily slanted towards births from foreign born mothers.

This means that long-term there are not the number of young people born in this country to sustain industry and the increasing demand for care for the elderly in the future.

It is not simply a case of replacing 1.5 million foreign born works, and their families to reduce the nationals foot print.
We simply can't ask millions of people to leave this island, when our country is for ever dependent on foreign labour to maintain economic activity and industry in the absence of sustained numbers of skilled home grown workers.

What  we really need to do address the labour market short comings which mean millions are drip fed benefits, when with the proper support they could be actively working and contributing.

Any comments on this draft are always welcome.


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  what is important to you?
Posted by: colinfrance1969 - 10-31-2015, 08:42 PM - Forum: General Discussion - News and Views - Replies (3)

I want people to discuss what is important to them? So please take this opportunity to say what is, don't wait until one of the major parties finally stumbles on the issues that are important....and then tell you what is going to happen... lets get these issues out in the open and lets debate them! Colin France

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Posted by: Glenfunnyman - 10-29-2015, 02:00 PM - Forum: General Discussion - News and Views - Replies (3)

I would like to know other party members thoughts on E-Cigarettes. A good or a bad thing? I personally think a good thing in comparison to cigarettes. So why the sudden demonisation? I'd be interested in your thoughts.

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Posted by: Glenfunnyman - 10-29-2015, 01:57 PM - Forum: General Discussion - News and Views - Replies (3)

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/des...al-6709994 Are Labour right about their fear for the British Steel industry? What should the Liberal Party position be?

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  Welcome To Liberal 21
Posted by: NigelGB - 10-26-2015, 11:32 AM - Forum: General Discussion - News and Views - Replies (3)

Liberal 21 is a group of Liberal Party members who are not affiliated to a local party organisation.  The aim of the group is to provide the type of support and discussion that liberal members would have in a local party association but using 21st Century digital communications to allow us to communicate and interact.  Hence the name.

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  Regional Devolution - more than an English Issue
Posted by: NigelGB - 10-22-2015, 10:07 AM - Forum: Regional Devolution - Replies (10)

There seems to be a consensus of opinion that the question of devolution in Scotland and Wales is finished - though with the possible question of when will Scotland go for full independence.  I would submit in fact that this is far from the case.  If we are to argue for the devolution of powers to the regions of England we must in all fairness also support the devolution of powers to the regions of then other nations inside the United Kingdom.  It is all too easy to take Scotland and Wales as single national entities without internal regions.  They are not, and we need to support devolution for the regions within within all the nations of the United Kingdom.

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  Fundamental Law - Nature and Purpose
Posted by: NigelGB - 10-22-2015, 10:00 AM - Forum: Constitutional Reform - Replies (1)

A Fundamental Law is a law that requires more than a decision by the legislative body to change.  Usually some form of vote in favour of change by the citizenship.  Although, but its nature, a Fundamental Law becomes part of the constitutional law of the country it applies to, it is not in itself a constitution.  Though by definition any written constitution must be a fundamental law.

The important thing about a Fundamental Law is that it puts limits on the ability of the Executive and the Legislature to make changes to the way in which the Executive and Legislature of the country operate.  As things stand at present in the United Kingdom Parliament is supreme.  There is no authority over it and it cannot be bound by any action taken by a previous parliament.  So if the government of the day decides that it wants to change the period in which it can be in office to nine hundred and ninety nine years and if it can get the required support in both houses to pass the legislation, it could do so.  A Fundamental Law would stop this.

That is why I am proposing a Fundamental Law at this years Liberal Party Assembly.

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